Taxation =/= Theft by johnnyalpha1234 in DebateAnarchism

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Taxation =/= Theft by johnnyalpha1234 in DebateAnarchism

[–]johnnyalpha1234[S] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Ok you fucking anarchist fag, I've had about enough of your shit. I've been arguing with three of you for the past hour and I'm about to kill myself from the bullshit you somehow indoctrinate yourself with.

If nothing is real except power, then you must, 100%, accept the power of the US Government. Otherwise, I can only classify you as a person with severe mental retardation. Severe. The military might of the US military would crush your queermo revolution in a day.

Why don't anarchists see the massive, contradictory leap in logic in regards to the state and the path to communism? by SCope13 in DebateAnarchism

[–]Quincy_Quick 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Challenging someone to present content in a debate forum where they have failed to do so is a personal attack? I don't think so.

Edit: "You're kind of an asshole with, strangely, more power than you should have" would be an example of a personal attack.

Why don't anarchists see the massive, contradictory leap in logic in regards to the state and the path to communism? by SCope13 in DebateAnarchism

[–]Quincy_Quick 6 points7 points  (0 children)

Seriously, you can downvote me, but if this leap in logic is so profound and obvious, why can't you describe it? I mean, looking through your post history, I can see that you are full of shit and not here to actually debate, but we're both here so why not present some actual content?

Edit: Ah, you responded.

Doesn't the strict moderation in anarchist subredddits show how silly the philosophy is? by FourthLife in DebateAnarchism

[–]SherwoodDanger -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I can see you're taking the Marx approach of being an insufferable douchebag.

Veganarchism AMA by xDPHCx in DebateAnarchism

[–]Potss 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I've already typed all this out ITT, and you cannot bother to look and rage-quit when I ask you to do so and prove your points wrong. But I am the child? How hilariously ironic and hypocritical, just like nearly all vegans. Also ageism.

Veganarchism AMA by xDPHCx in DebateAnarchism

[–]Benjbear -1 points0 points  (0 children)

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I’m a translator, archivist and editor of historical anarchist works. AMA. by humanispherian in DebateAnarchism

[–]ginkop4 0 points1 point  (0 children)

This one ?

What do you think of AK Press' Direct Struggle Against Capital : A Peter Kropotkin Anthology ?

Killing police in retribution for unjust killing by police: is it a virtue, a justifiable evil, or wrongful? Why? by deliciousbuttermmm in DebateAnarchism

[–]MrHighTolerance3 1 point2 points  (0 children)

Maoism is just.... like.... so dumb

How do people actually subscribe to this bullshit

Rise of internet alt-right, people who say "cuck" and "SJW", rise of racism by sra3fk in DebateAnarchism

[–]rammingparu2 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

I'm already out of high school bro. You are Cancer, and I am eradicating you.

Rise of internet alt-right, people who say "cuck" and "SJW", rise of racism by sra3fk in DebateAnarchism

[–]rammingparu2 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Shut up, bitch.

No Borders Movement AMA by Voltairinede in DebateAnarchism

[–]EStriker18 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Yeah, you don't really have an answer for why you waste your time and money to attack the working class while pretending to be a radical. You push the envelope in the direction the elites want society to go (only the top capitalists and leftist radicals approve of open borders--no majority in all of human history has ever supported this experiment). This is a bourgeois summer project for you, to put on your resume for when you graduate school and get a plush new job with some liberal NGO.

When people get raped or killed because you force open the gate for any random person to come into our countries, people like you are nowhere to be found. You end up living in your entirely white upper middle class bubbles, while our old people and poor are stuck in the declining suburbs living with the consequences of your actions.

I guess this is the nature of the post-modern left. A bunch of careerists and kudos-addicts (kudos from the system). Rage alongside the machine! I'll say a prayer for you once the capitalist global crisis takes down the states shielding and enabling you, and there is nothing standing in between the western working people and your ilk.

Why do anarchists spend resources fighting completely irrelevant fringe far-right groups? by anarchism4thewin in DebateAnarchism

[–]swagnarok69 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No stupid. We bait you with hate speech, you attack us, we yell freeze peach and self defense, then the cops come in and fuck your shit up and when they're done, they toss you in jail and let us go on about our day.

Antifa outnumbered TWP 10 to 1 and still got stabbed to shit. Feel free to come to the RNC and try again though.

Why do anarchists spend resources fighting completely irrelevant fringe far-right groups? by anarchism4thewin in DebateAnarchism

[–]RexAnglorumSaxonum -11 points-10 points  (0 children)

Oy vey you're right. What kind of fascist am I?! I can't even Shoah my political opponents without injuring my own people. I'll have you know this is causing me to rethink my life...

Why do anarchists spend resources fighting completely irrelevant fringe far-right groups? by anarchism4thewin in DebateAnarchism

[–]RexAnglorumSaxonum -12 points-11 points  (0 children)

Violent confrontation of fascists was very successful

Yes, yessss, feed the anger, feed the hate.

This is type of stuff I like. Bravo. It's not that I'm a violent person, I am not, I just love seeing raw truth. I commend you for taking off the mask. For just coming out and saying it. Doesn't it feel awesome to violently suppress political ideologies you don't like? You'll be joking about shower ovens in no time.

You can't fight for anarchy. It has to be earned. by kirkisartist in DebateAnarchism

[–]kirkisartist[S] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

are you refuting that anarchists are rule crazy control freaks?

Why do you dislike Bookchin and his thinking (if you do)? by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]DianaKurlan10 -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

What the fuck are you talking about, faggot?

Socialists, why do you deny private property? by SuperAgonist in DebateAnarchism

[–]Ana_Fap -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Didn't address a single point here. Too much triggering to actually think.

Why do you dislike Bookchin and his thinking (if you do)? by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]DianaKurlan10 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Fag.

I believe in free speech for fascists(not for the common liberal reason) by g_333 in DebateAnarchism

[–]SickInTheHeadOhBoy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Every ethnic, political, and religious groups have their radical misfits, BLM being no different. Generalizing a whole movement of people as thugs because of a small minority is pretty low. This is either a sign of autism or neckbeardism, I'll let you pick your diagnosis.

Two forces comprise the 'bottom line' in the history of human societies: Violence and Ecology. From this, only two sides appear consistent, and mutually opposed: Fascists and Anti-Civ Anarchists by negroyverde in DebateAnarchism

[–]lavaflower 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Do you write so many words because you think other people will think you're not smart if you don't?

AMA: James Joyce and Anarchism by joycedevivre75 in DebateAnarchism

[–]CleomenesTheGreat -5 points-4 points  (0 children)

How tyrannical and authoritarian. Not really anarchic at all, you're just playing the role of big government restricting our freedoms and deciding what the individual can or can't do.

AMA: James Joyce and Anarchism by joycedevivre75 in DebateAnarchism

[–]CleomenesTheGreat -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Edgy, non-irish retard butchers Joyce's work in an attempt to link it with "Muh no government".

Doubts About Libertarian Socialism by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]Yamayamauchiman 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Alright I'm sorry. What I mean is: libertarian socialism is a viable political ideology for those who are affected with impaired intellectual development.

Doubts About Libertarian Socialism by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]Yamayamauchiman -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

Libertarian socialism is retarded. Workers don't own shit.

Anti-Work Anarchism AMA by Astagirl in DebateAnarchism

[–]Savoury_Crustacean 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Liberal scum gtfo.

Are realtors laborers or capitalists? by s1ngm1ng in DebateAnarchism

[–]swoleinjesus -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

r u like 16 shut the fuck up u loser Jesus fuck this guy

Social Democracy vs Leninism vs "Anarcho"-Capitalism by lego00 in DebateAnarchism

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Lmfao, really? Great example of the superiority of your ideas...

What, you can't even stand up for yourself? If you think I'm wrong tell me why, otherwise you're just another boring problem.

Tell me, when you stand against a wall, is there no wall? Or when you play against another team, is there no team? Sure thing dude... idiot.

Would you rather be dependent of labor or the government? by wingnut5k in DebateAnarchism

[–]hwy380 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

What a pussy answer. You work/for pay period. Fucking scum college kid or Bernie Sanders supporter. We/us real men, not the new "what bathroom do I use" fuck sticks. We know that we must work to provide. Reddit is a wasteland of total fuck sticks. Signed Dead Pool.

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]IrbyTumor 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Well, your css is awful. You can see a sample of my work on

/r/GirlonGirlRimming

I'll be glad to participate in debating Anarchism. I can even get my friend /u/cloudthewolf to join in the fun. I think he's a small business owner so he also likes to debate anarchists.

What are the rules for debating anarchy?

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

felt dumber for reading that

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]pseudojewboy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Okay nazbol back off to your cave now.

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]zxz242 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Well-deserved.

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]Voltairinede 1 point2 points  (0 children)

can't stop me fam

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]zxz242 0 points1 point  (0 children)

More shitposts? Don't decrease the quality of this sub, thanks.

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]zxz242 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whatever it is you have, keep it off the internet.

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]zxz242 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It is you. You have a tendency to overreact to everything, and are heavily prone to confirmation biases.

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]zxz242 -3 points-2 points  (0 children)

Aren't you that girl with borderline personality disorder?

MODS ARE MISSING: LET'S MAKE SOME MORE! by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]Voltairinede 3 points4 points  (0 children)

Oppose Fascist prick

Should I vote for Bernie or Hillary? by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]kajimeiko -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Deuces ~~

Should I vote for Bernie or Hillary? by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]ronperlmansbeard -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Lol

should class come first? by -Blackarmy- in DebateAnarchism

[–]daReaper88 -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Kk bb. Your rhetoric makes you sound fruiter than a bowl of fruit loops for Christ's sake.

Animal liberation and anarchism by sra3fk in DebateAnarchism

[–]tabletop4life 4 points5 points  (0 children)

I forgot that I was not on a subreddit dedicated to debate and discussion. Thank you for reminding me.

The regressive left! by -Blackarmy- in DebateAnarchism

[–]Obersturm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

great men like adolf hitler

The regressive left! by -Blackarmy- in DebateAnarchism

[–]Obersturm -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just wait fag we are ridding the coat tails of trump to push nationalism, it's only going to be a few years till we take over america

Which anarchist school of thought (or political ideology) would these beliefs be aligned to? by stepinshadows in DebateAnarchism

[–]Obersturm 0 points1 point  (0 children)

anti racism anti fascism

It's called being gay

Announcing the 2016 Sticky Series! Nominations and Proposals Inside by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

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Announcing the 2016 Sticky Series! Nominations and Proposals Inside by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]AlienatedOphelia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fact that I would disagree with certain ontological claims about your body does not invalidate this.

For me it does. People with your beliefs have done considerable tangible harm to trans women, an extremely vulnerable population, so I have zero interest in helping you "learn and grow" (I.e., giving you and your crypto-fascist kind more ammo in your horrid deluded little hate quest) in any way whatsoever.

And "not agreeing with ontological claims about [my] body" aside, insisting on calling all trans women "he" is fucking misogynist hate speech, period. Why would I want to engage with someone who doesn't even respect and contributes to the oppressive invalidation of the most fundamental component of my identity and embodied self.

I have nothing but bile for you.

Announcing the 2016 Sticky Series! Nominations and Proposals Inside by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]theunterrified 1 point2 points  (0 children)

I don't think knowing that you'll want to second this, anyway

Actually, I'm someone that is fairly competent at separating ideas from individuals, and judging them on their own merits. If you have views that are unorthodox, I'd like to hear them regardless of what they turn out to be. Curiosity and exploring different view points is a pretty essential part of learning and personal growth, I would say.

The fact that I would disagree with certain ontological claims about your body does not invalidate this.

So while you are free to hate me and spew bile my way, if you have something interesting to say, I'd still like to hear it.

Announcing the 2016 Sticky Series! Nominations and Proposals Inside by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]AlienatedOphelia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

No you don't. And I don't want you to. Read the second edit. I don't engage with anti-transsexual gender nihilist neo-radfem stealth-bigots. Gross.

Announcing the 2016 Sticky Series! Nominations and Proposals Inside by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]AlienatedOphelia 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Thanks! I'm glad there's interest. :) I've been waiting for some sort of platform to express my ideas for a while.

But while I'd like to, I guess a potential problem with that would be that I'm just some woman who thinks completely for myself and has strange unpopular radical ideas (hence the username) that run contrary to a lot of queer/transfeminist gender theory, not an established theorist.

I'd have to write a manifesto or something (which I've been working on, and meaning to get out there in some form, possibly through a zine, for a while, but life has been hell recently), so that people are aware of what my take on anarcha-feminism (which is flavored by a certain kind of explicitly gynocentric, pan-lesbian quasi-separatist difference feminism squarely in between third-wave postmodernist gender relativism/subjectivity and old second-wave radfem theories of biological essentialism) actually entails. Without any other way of knowing this, how would anyone ask meaningful questions about it? (Maybe I could write a basic overview in the text post, like what I just wrote, I guess?)

I feel like people would ask questions about anarcha-feminism wanting to know what the ideology mostly consists of in practice. I could still answer those questions as I'm fairly well-versed in canon anarcha-feminist texts, but...My take is unique to the point where a lot of feminists from other strains might actually consider some of my positions antifeminist, and I've been alienated from more "mainstream alternative" queer feminist communities for a while now, so...IDK.

EDIT: So, could this be considered an 'individual' thread? I'd definitely want to "speak for myself" but it isn't really about anything I'm accomplishing per se (unless you count formulating this theory). It's kind of in between ideology and individual.

As long as everyone realizes that it's just one person's synthesis of different anarchist and feminist ideologies after a period of intense reading and exploration, and that it is very much out of step with third-wave anarcha-feminism in many ways, I'd love to do one. Just nervous about being on the spot for anarcha-feminism is all. :)

Edit again: Ok, nevermind. Shit, after perusing your post history, it seems you're a transmisogynist, gender denialist/nihilist, and anti-transsexual, and have actually espoused hate speech against trans women, so no, fuck you. I'm a transsexual woman and a lot of my ideology is heavily influenced by that narrative, so I don't think knowing that you'll want to second this, anyway.

Making anarchism more accessible to liberals? by AlmightyDeku in DebateAnarchism

[–]monkyyy 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Hey maybe you should make an argument after someone points out your not doing so.

Making anarchism more accessible to liberals? by AlmightyDeku in DebateAnarchism

[–]zahmah_kibo 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Correct, which would be inevitable in anarcho-feudalismcapitalism

Donald Trump intends to turn atrocity into state policy if elected President. by jaybeleriand in DebateAnarchism

[–]Ruanito_666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

The fascist just called me edgy. That's hilarious.

Donald Trump intends to turn atrocity into state policy if elected President. by jaybeleriand in DebateAnarchism

[–]nuesuh 0 points1 point  (0 children)

i don't really care how a person that is "pro-trans" and has 666 in his name thinks of my internet comments.

You're really edgy mate. Disliking my comments and calling me and idiotic bootlicker.

Donald Trump intends to turn atrocity into state policy if elected President. by jaybeleriand in DebateAnarchism

[–]Ruanito_666 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Whatever, bootlicker. If you want to make yourself look like an idiot I won't stop you.

Donald Trump intends to turn atrocity into state policy if elected President. by jaybeleriand in DebateAnarchism

[–]nuesuh -1 points0 points  (0 children)

i don't need a "right". I can do whatever the fuck I want. If i want to call cucks cucks, i'll call them a cuck.

Making anarchism more accessible to liberals? by AlmightyDeku in DebateAnarchism

[–]pathofraven -2 points-1 points  (0 children)

And what a surprise! A typical sneering and thoughtless reply, never would have seen that coming!

Making anarchism more accessible to liberals? by AlmightyDeku in DebateAnarchism

[–]zahmah_kibo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

Typical anti-civ/post-left apathy.

Donald Trump intends to turn atrocity into state policy if elected President. by jaybeleriand in DebateAnarchism

[–]zahmah_kibo 2 points3 points  (0 children)

No, my favorite word is cuck. I am so devoid of personal accomplishments that I have to establish a strong sense of identity with people of the same skin color as me and use their achievements to fill the vacuum inside of me where normal people have a personality. My hobbies include jerking it to anime porn and whining about the dumb "dindus" next door on /pol/. Whenever people disagree with me, I call them "cuck" (if I'm in a good mood), or "nigger" (if I'm not in a good mood). In my free time I also enjoy designing dank may mays involving frogs, Trump, and caricatures of Muslims. My goal in life is to turn America into a safe space free of the shifty-eyed chinks, greedy ZOG merchants, drug fiend Latinos, and rapacious nig-nogs. Protecting the sanctity and purity of the white race, especially white women, is my highest calling.

And anyone who stands in the way is just a dumb cuck!

Donald Trump intends to turn atrocity into state policy if elected President. by jaybeleriand in DebateAnarchism

[–]zahmah_kibo 1 point2 points  (0 children)

your sexual insecurity is pathological

Making anarchism more accessible to liberals? by AlmightyDeku in DebateAnarchism

[–]IAMAVERYGOODPERSON 0 points1 point  (0 children)

the point of my question.

jesus christ you are slimey

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

FUCK YOU YOU CONSDCENDING SACK OF GARBAGE

WHY SHOULD ANYONE RESPECT YOU WHEN YOU SHOW NO ONE ANY RESPECT?

YOU'RE SUBHUMAN SCUM AND YOU DESERVE A BULLET IN YOUR FASCIST HEAD, YOU MISERABLE SACK OF DOGSHIT

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

ALL I WANT IS THE RIGHT TO STAND TALL AND NOT BE SERVILE TO ANYONE, BUT SACK OF RODENT CRAP LIKE YOYU CAN TOLERATE THAT. NO, YOU FASCIST AUTHORITARIAN FUCKSTAINS NEED EVERYONE TO BOW DOWN AND KISS YOUR RING.

WELL FUCK YOU YOU STUPID, ARROGANT, CONDESCENDING FUCK! I WILL NEVER KNEEL BEFORE YOU! YOU ARE NOT MORE POWERFUL TGHAN ME, EVEN IF YOU DO HAVE A MOB AT YOUR BACK AND DO CONTROL EVERYTHING AROUND ME. I WILL NEVER BE A SLAVE TO SHIT LIKE YOU.

I WILL SHOOT YOU ALL BEFORE THAT HAPPENS. I WILL GO ON A FUCKING RAMPAGE AND MURDER TEN THOUSAND, TEN MILLION OF YOU FEMINIST SACKS OF GARBAGE BEFORE I WILL KNEEL TO ONE OF YOU.

YOU'RE SLIME! SUBHUMAN SCUMBAGS! IF YOU CAN'T RESPECT ME AS A HUMAN BEING, THEN I WILL NOT TREAT YOU AS HUMANS, I WILL TREAT YOU AS THE FASCISTS YOU ARE AND I WILL KILL YOU

YOU GOT THAT, YOU FEMINAZI FUCK? I WILL NEVER CAPITULATE TO YOUR BULLYING BULLSHIT. I WILL NEVER KNEEL AND KISS YOUR RING!

I WILL KILL ALL OF YOU BEFORE THAT HAPPENS, YOU MISERABLE SACK OF AUTHORITARIAN DOGSHIT!

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Maybe I will shoot a feminist in the face. Just for you. Just for all the endless SHIT feminist fascist pieces of shit like you have inflicted on my life. I am so fucking sick of you authoritarian pieces of garbage, and I do own a gun,.

Keep pushing me, you sack of shit,. Keep throwing gasoline on that fire. When you and your feminazi fuckstain friends finally push me far enough, maybe you'll feel a bit guilty when I do snap and shoot up a rally of you fascist fucks. Maybe I'll get lucky and you'll be there.

But will it really matter? I could unload into a crowd of feminists without worrying about killing a single decent person, because you're ALL authoritarian FUCKS who deserve bullets.

JUST KEEP PUSHING, YOU FUCK. KEEP FUCKING PUSHING ME.

I'LL SHOW YOU A GODDAMN MELTDOWN, YOU FASCIST FUCKSTAIN!

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

Eat shit and die, you trolling piece of shit. You're scum. Worthless dogshit.

Eat a fucking bullet, you useless sack of dogshit.

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You're a lying sack of dogshit.

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]AnarchoDave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You just replied to ME you fucking retard.

Critiquing the anarchist left is not a straw man just because he says it is.

Look...I get it. You're a fucking idiot. You've missed the crux of this stupid little sub-argument. Protip: it's not about whether or not it's a strawman (and I wasn't the one who said it was initially), it's about whether or not the mischaracterization of a group can categorically be called a strawman.

He will ask questions and make demands that you provide him with information, but you need not answer them to continue the debate.

I see you're still butthurt that I asked you to provide evidence for your positive claim about a body of text. Your tears are delicious, retard.

He doesn't really even want to know the answer, but it is the fastest way for him to respond and try to continue the argument (not debate).

You doing all this pissing and moaning about debate is the zenith of irony. You couldn't debate your way out of a wet paper bag.

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–][deleted] -1 points0 points  (0 children)

Just ignore AnarchoDave, he doesn't even know the meaning of a straw man argument and in fact engages in them regularly if you look at his posts. Critiquing the anarchist left is not a straw man just because he says it is. Your point is valid and is one of the main ways post-left anarchists critique the left. A straw man argument would be if he could actually make an argument against that critique, and you attack another similar argument that he never put forth. He will ask questions and make demands that you provide him with information, but you need not answer them to continue the debate. He doesn't really even want to know the answer, but it is the fastest way for him to respond and try to continue the argument (not debate).

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–][deleted] 0 points1 point  (0 children)

You only think we're representative of that group because you've already made up your mind about the identity of that group, which you clearly know nothing about beyond your Internet browsing.

I'm done talking to you. I fucking hate people who use bullshit arguments like this. Such incredible fucking nonsense.

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]AnarchoDave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

It's a joke, dumbdumb.

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]AnarchoDave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

I was frustrated and so I just quoted him saying he had a learning disability as replied "That explains a lot." So he banned me for "ableism."

He should have banned you for being retarded.

The other people responding to this post all think this post is a direct response to that event, but it's not.

Uh huh.

The reality is that I tend to get banned from leftist subreddits within 48 hours of joining them because I use critical thinking. I'm a natural contrarian, and I don't find circle-jerking and agreeing interesting. I want to question assumptions and consider multiple possibilities. That tends to make me anathema in leftist communities, where questioning the conventional wisdom is too often considered an intolerable offense.

lol

Or it's that you're a giant (unjustified) sock-sniffer.

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

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In my experience most anarchists are braindead leftists who are incapable of anything resembling critical thinking. Their class consciousness is completely shallow, and in actual practice is indistinguishable from class prejudice.

The inability of the left to consider itself critically will always doom Anarchism to irrelevance. by [deleted] in DebateAnarchism

[–]Cuddly_Wumpums 5 points6 points  (0 children)

Wah wah wah I got banned from an internet forum and therefore anarchism is an abject failure.

Representative Democracy as a sample size of direct democracy. by Leodhas in DebateAnarchism

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Nah. what i meant was to make my claim in a formal schema to prove that i'm asking you to prove a negative. my claim is that i asked you to show x, because x -> -(-x) what i did not say was that if you weren't able to prove it that means -(-x)-> (∃(x)). You can produce an invalid schemata of my claim to show why it is invalid or not sound.

Rawls clearly supports a consensus democracy with overlapping consensus in place of majority voting(which he explicitly states to be faulty and dangerous). Furthermore his state has a constitution which you have a moral duty to follow on the grounds that failure to follow it means imprisonment, even if the laws are unjust to a small degree. He also explicitly states that there needs to be a government to protect against the tyranny of the majority, and to ensure the freedom of speech. Furthermore he thinks that the government needs institutions to protect against certain types of clear and present danger in political speech(see the chapter in political liberalism). The liberties of the ancients was the term that Rawls used to describe direct democracy(he mentions the term in the intro for political liberalism p5). This is a term from Constant that contrasts the modern form of representative democracy with the direct participatory system in ancient athens(his book on the subject starts the distinctions at about page 300-330 depending on the edition)

Rawls states about what conceptions of liberalism his political liberalism opposes, he considers classical republicanism to not necessarily be in opposition and then goes on: But with civic humanism, as I understand it, there is indeed fundamental opposition. For as a form of Aristotelianism, it is sometimes stated as the view that man is a social, even a political, animal whose essential nature is most fully realized in a democratic society in which there is widespread and vigorous participation in political life. Participation is not encouraged as necessary for the protection of the basic liberties of democratic citizenship, and as in itself one form of good among others, however important for many persons. Rather, taking part in democratic politics is seen as the privileged locus of the good life. It is a return to giving a central place to what Constant called the "liberties of the ancients" and has all the defects of that. (p206)

By civic humanism he means the direct participation of the public in the political system. as seen in footnote 38 of the same chapter:

So understood, a form of civic humanism is powerfully if pessimistically expressed by Hannah Arendt (and, she thinks, the ancient Greeks), who holds that freedom and worldliness, best realized in politics, are the only values that redeem human life from the endless round of nature and make it worth living.

Representative Democracy as a sample size of direct democracy. by Leodhas in DebateAnarchism

[–]AnarchoDave 0 points1 point  (0 children)

why dont you prove it formally? i know that you can do this since you are better at logic than me.

I literally just explained why that's not possible...ya fuckin' retard.

You (on the other hand) could trivially prove your claim with a single quote. You won't (of course) because you're a dishonest idiot.

Perhaps you should just read rawls instead of making up cases of logical fallacies.

lol

I've actually read Rawls. Nothing in anything I ever read indicated an aversion to direct democracy. There might be some vague claims to the contrary (in fact), but I'm not going to bother advancing those to someone who's intellectually dishonest. I'm already wasting my time talking to someone as fucking dumb as you.

Representative Democracy as a sample size of direct democracy. by Leodhas in DebateAnarchism

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why dont you prove it formally? i know that you can do this since you are better at logic than me. Perhaps you should just read rawls instead of making up cases of logical fallacies.

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